AP European Post #7

What were the goals of working class in the new industrial society, and how did they differ from middle-class goals?  Why did the working class and the middle class pursue different goals?

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54 thoughts on “AP European Post #7

  1. The goals of the working class vs the middle class were both similar and different, actually. Both classes held the motive to support their families; however, working class hoped to make ends meet and work harder than before. As for the middle class, they attempted to expand their businesses ad industries.These classes likely pursued different goals because of gap in finances. The middle class had more money, enough for them to be associated with businesses at all. The working class was typically poor laborers.

    • I agree about the working class being more tied down. They could only worry about their families, while the middle class could afford expansion into cities.

    • I agree. I like that you brought up the similarities and differences between the two and why they existed

    • I totally agree that their incomes are what determines their goals. Middle classes had more money which meant they could invest in businesses and make a profit. The working class lacked this money and needed to work mostly as laborers to make a living.

    • I fully agree. The lower class was pretty unable to do anything other than caring for the family, which is an important factor to mention

    • I agree, the working and middle classes differed greatly, there were also some similarities. They both had families to support but went about it in different ways.

    • I agree with your point about both groups wanting to support their families. In this new economic society, it was not a particularly ambitious goal to simply provide for one’s family. When it comes to goals beyond that, they were slightly different, as you said. The minor advantage that the middle class had in terms of wealth over the working class meant that they were more willing to try and expand their companies to gain more money. Thus, I agree with your point that the differences in economic goals for these two groups would not have been possible without the differences in wealth.

    • I agree that the middle class was better off and as such worked towards having a better quality of life as well as getting out of the city.

    • I totally agree; the middle class were more free to use their money to invest rather than being tied down to their family. It was basically a wage gap that caused differences.

  2. The goals of the working class is very similar to that of the Middle class. The working class had the goal of working to support the family, this would usually working super hard and only making ends meet. The Middle class had the same family goal, but had more freedom. This freedom allowed them to want to expand business into other towns and cities. Their goals differed because the amounts of money they earned only allowed them to do certain things,

    • I agree on the fact that middle class men had more freedom. They had the finances to travel to cities and excel in their work.

    • I agree with all the points you made. I especially acknowledge and like the statement in which you emphasized the extra freedom the middle class has.

    • I like your point, the middle class definitely had more freedom than the working class because of money. Working class had to only work and make a living while the middle class had more of an income and leasure with their money that allowed them to do more.

    • I like how you included family in your post, but i have to say I think the middle class had a few worries of their own, such as rising taxes.

    • I agree, the poorer class had to work much harder in order to thrive while the middle class was already granted some of the rights that allowed them to thrive. The political freedom demanded by the middle class was very different from the humanitarian rights demanded by the poorer class.

    • I agree, I think that the middle class’ pre-existing conditions of them just simply being better off allowed them to take more risks by moving to expand businesses. The working class, however, did not seek to achieve anything beyond supporting their families, like you said, due to lower amounts of resources.

    • I agree, I think that the middle class’ pre-existing conditions of them just simply being better off allowed them to take more risks by moving to expand businesses. The working class, however, did not seek to achieve anything beyond supporting their families, like you said, due to lower amounts of resources.

  3. Both the middle and working class wanted to support their families but the middle class was focused more on expanding business than anything else. The reason for the middle and working class pursing different goals is the amount of money each had.

    • I agree. Money definitely played the major role in the difference between the two. More wealth meant more time, time used to build trade and good relations. Lower income meant more work, work which built the infrastructure.

  4. In the new industrial society, the goals of the middle class were very similar to the goals of the working class. They both strived to provide for their families because for most, that was all they had. However, the difference in class meant a difference in finances. The middle class being richer could also focus on expanding their businesses and homes to the bustling cities, where production and services flourished.

    • I agree with all your points; especially when you stated the middle class being significantly more wealthy.

    • I agree with you. The middle class was definitely more able to expand business more. And i do agree that they ahd the same goal of caring for family.

    • I disagree slightly because the middle class was trying to get their homes out of the city because it was dirty and people litteraly threw poo into the streets.

  5. The main goals of the working class were to suppot their families, working hard to create infrastructure (which would then turn into the workforce of the economy), encourage more economical growth by developing more land into greater agricultural and industrial plot, and to sustain the fueling cities with more products to support the growth.
    The middle class’ goals were to support their families, expand trade and business into new cities to induce more trade and economic growth, spread optimism with the other middle class families (their growth being the driving force of the economy) and building trade and government balances within the household system.
    Because they belonged to different social classes, wealth played a major factor in what each class pursued. The working class had less money, but more man power to build infrastructure, while the middle class (having more wealth) focused on relations and trade with other countries/cities.

  6. For the working class the main goal was to support their families, which meant making ends meet by working. They supplied the economy with products and helped fueled the cities and economy. The middle classe goals were to help their families by supporting them, expanding their businesses into the cities and growing them and building up trade. They pursued different goals based off of their wealth, what the already had and what they needed fueled different pursuits of goals.

    • I completely agree, the working class were held back from pursuing more goals because of how tied down they were financially. Wealth was definitely the chief factor of how things worked back then and kind of is now too.

    • I agree with the differences between the working class and the middle class that you stated. I also agree that the goals of the middle class varied on what they already had.

  7. The primary concern of the working class was simply not dieing and dodging what came out of chamber pots while the middle class already had food basically secure so they focused on gaining comforts and moving out of the urban centers with all their desiesses and blight. Essentially the poor had to focus on their imediat survival because of the horrible urban city conditions while the middle class could enjoy the benefits of the industrial revolution.

  8. The goals of the working class were to fight for better working conditions in horrendous working conditions such as the working houses. Many of the working class individuals purely fought for life in a system full of starvation and poverty. The middle class just desired an increase in political representation in the respect of male suffrage and House of Commons.

  9. The goals of the working class society were to establish basic human and workers rights as corporations and businesses often took advantage of them and they wanted representation in such regards so they would be able to achieve such as pay and time off.

  10. The goals of the working class was to gain more worker rights, such as shorter work days and more pay while the middle class was more concerned with getting themselves into business because they had more money and more time.

    • I agree, wage income affected what people desired in reform as the poorer looked for increased living standards through greater worker rights and pay while the middle class desired new opportunites at increased prosperity since they were as focused on surviving but rather thriving.

  11. The goals of the working class is to not only take care of their families, but to receive better working conditions because they were treated so poorly. The middle class having more money were able to focus on expanding their investments and businesses. These two classes had different goals in mind mainly due to the amount have money they make.

    • I agree with your statement on the fact that the middle class needed more financial stability in order to operate business and and expand their investments by asking the company for higher wages.

  12. The goals of the working class vs the goals of the middle class intertwined in multiple areas, mostly when it involved getting more money, though the reasoning behind these goals were very different. The middle class wished to expand and invest for an increase of wealth, whereas the working class wished to work simply to gain enough money to live comfortably with their families.
    Goals were not too similar, but not entirely different either.

  13. The new economic system in this time period led to many changes in economic life throughout Europe. Among these changes were those to the goals of families trying to succeed in the new system. The middle class and working class had generally distinct goals when it came to industrial society. The working class, including those who worked in factories, sought purely to make ends meet and have enough money to support their families and continue working and living as well. This was because they generally did not have enough resources to pursue other, more ambitious goals when it came to wealth. The middle class, being slightly better off, wished to support their families but also sought to expand their businesses, since they had enough money to look beyond simply making ends meet. In those regards, the goals of the middle class and those of the working class were somewhat different.

  14. The working and middle class had a similar main goal: supporting their families. Beyond this, the working class also strove to make ends meet and basically survive. As for the middle class, they wanted to expand business and industries into more cities and towns. These classes pursued different goals because of a distinction in finance. The middle class, who had more money at the time, were more financially free t invest and make additional profit. In comparison, the working class were tied down to supporting their family, as it was all they could afford to do.

  15. Both the working class and the middle class worked during the time of the industrial revolution in order to support their families. However, the middle class also had more money and more free time. With this, the middle class could invest in a better future instead of struggling to make ends meet.

  16. The goals of the working class were to get higher wages, safer jobs, more job security, more representation in government, and if you were a Marxist, to seize the means of production. That’s the gist of it anyway.

    • And the middle classes goals were fairly similar. They wanted lower taxes, more representation, higher wages, and to get out of the city. (Sorry accidentally clicked post comment when i wasnt done)

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