AP World Post #7

The French Revolution began as a movement to establish a constitutional monarchy on the model of the English Revolution of 1688, but ultimately became even more radical and violent than the American Revolution.  Why did this happen?

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  1. I believe it’s because the French were a more established kingdom with a longer history of oppression and the peasants and the Kings were packed closer

    • I agree with How the French have had a long history of oppression, but I don’t exactly understand why having the King and peasants packed close together would make the Revolution more violent. Even the American Revolution was extremely violent but we were more than a considerable distance away from Britain.

    • While France was a more established kingdom, the revolution only became bloody because of tyrannical revolution leaders not because the monarchy was to strong.

    • I agree. The French had more time set up a larger government. There was so much oppression of the lower classes and they had so much to change in society which led to a more radical and violent revolution.

    • I agree, the French was a more established kingdom. It was also however, ruled by insufficient rulers, such as king Louis. This may had led it to be more violent and chaotic.

  2. The French Revolution became even more violent than the American Revolution due to the spread of radical ideals and leaders. Along with this, as leaders of the revolution failed to provide for the people they would demand blood. This can also be attributed to the anger and dissent felt by the citizens of France due to heavy taxes, social/political injustices and, the lack of available food before the revolution.

    • I agree that the little initiative and effort freon the leaders impacted the Revolution to become as radical as it did. The famine also impacted the situation and when additional changes to the position of both the nobles and peasants went into play, peasants began to revolt and encourage others to revolt.

    • I agree that the French Revolution was more violent because of the radical ideals of the leaders. I also believe they felt this because they had a long history of oppression and felt they needed payback.

    • I agree, the fact that the people were blatantly used for the countries benefit and not really taken care of properly led to them being very violent. France expected their people to be willing to pay the taxes and do everything they said but than did nothing when it came to the people starving or complaining.

    • I also can concur that since heavy taxes, political and social injustices, and the lack of food were factors that led the French people to become more violent during the revolution. Since the government did not change these reforms, despite the popular demand for it, the people of France began remove the people in power in the best way the knew possible. Which was by publicly murdering thousands of government officials to demonstrate their needs to the rest of the nation.

    • I completely agree with your view of the Revolution and the position the radicals and peasants had in causing such violence.

  3. What made the French Revolution more radical and violent than the American Revolution is that the goal of this revolt was to accomplish a more “power to the people” ideology, given the government less opportunity and power to govern. These ideas were chosen to be spread through warfare. From the arrest and execution of the king to the destruction of prisons, the French Revolution grew more radical as peasants began to violently revolt. The threat of famine and invasion also played part into this violence. There was also very little political guidance from the king. He failed to make significant enactments and choices while supporting the Revolution. Massacre spiraled uncontrollably with the unstable government.

    • I agree with everything you said, but I believe that the violence escalated so much because the peasants knew the King was living in his castle eating his heart out while they suffered outside, which led to their indignation and anger rising even higher, leading to even more violent responses out of rage.

    • I agree. The violent nature of the French government caused the rebellions to be violent also. As the revolution went on the violence of the radical French leaders caused the peasant uprisings to be very destructive.

  4. Because even after the King had been executed and the Deceleration of the rights of man was written and put into place, the Revolution did not stop there. Robespierre had the suspected enemies of the Revolution executed as well. This means thousands of people were guillotined including the king’s widow, Marie Antoinette.

  5. I believe what made the French Revolution more violent than the American Revolution is in part due to the fact that the distance of the British rulers forced them to make slow logical decisions about American rebellions and the Americans couldn’t do anything to a king across the sea, while the French had the numbers and their hated king close by, so when the peasants rioted, they had a good target all gussied up in his castle. Another thing that made it violent is the immediate violent response of the monarchy which forced the rebellious peasants to respond in kind, forcing a clue of violence that kept escalating until the peasants sheer numbers won the violence game. The kings army eventually ran out of men who would support him over their freedom.

    • I agree with all of your points. Especially with the point that you made with the French people being close to their king geographically. The immediate responses to these rebellions undoubtedly resulted in convolution.

  6. The French Revolution began as a political uprising against the monarch, King Louis XVI, because of the social injustices against the 3rd estate people. They felt that because of their suffering and starvation that they needed reforms as quickly as possible. However, since they did not receive these new reforms quickly enough, people began to become more aggressive and angry at the government due to the radical ideas of leaders such as Maximilien Robespierre. Who led the nation towards the “Rule of Terror” because many people felt that this was the only way to change the system. Therefore, because of the heavy radical influences from revolution leaders like Robespierre, the French Revolution would eventually become one of the most violent revolutions in history.

  7. The French Revolution became more violent and radical than the American Revolution because as the revolution went on the people weren’t getting what the wanted. Because of this radical leaders like Robespierre came into power which caused people to become angry and violent, causing the revolution to be very destructive.

  8. The French Revolution ended up being more violent and radical due to the famine, war, and fear that took place in France. Many peasants were starving outside in the cold while kings were sitting comfortably stuffing their faces on the inside. The kings and queens also didnt really take part in political matters which just made matters worse in causing people to begin to get angry and violent.

    • I agree that while the citizens were angry, Robespierre’s abuse of power and tactics incited even more bloody battles and angry citizens. If the problems of the people had been solved the first time around by Robespierre, it would not have been so bloody.

  9. I believed that the French revolution was more violent and better established because the kingdom put together is tightly packed and close. The French also had very radical leaders.

  10. The French Revolution became quite bloody because of its radical leader and lack of organization. Rather then being united and fighting a single enemy, unorganized and unchecked civil wars and divisions broke out across the country. The revolutions leader, Robespierre, was also tyrannical and bloodthirsty, and because he had no checks of power, was able to execute thousands and rule in a way quite like the monarchs before. Though the revolution seemed organized at first, Robespierre’s abuse of power and the unorganized faction wars that broke out throughout made the revolution terribly bloody.

    • I agree with your view of the radicals and the uprising of the French Revolution itself. This lack of structure was definitely another spark that added to the violence, and allowed it to continue happening for a long time, resulting in atrocities such as the several executions

    • Well Grace, you are definitely right about how the radical leaders of the French Revolution were the cause of the bloodshed and chaos that happened during this time period. It is because of people like Robespierre who led the nation on a killing spree because he had no one to keep him in order. Therefore, I 100% agree with you that because of the unchecked radical leaders of the French Revolution, caused the uprising to become more violent.

      • Grace, I agree that the main reason that the French Revolution was so bloody and violent was because of the rulers. I also think that poverty and famine also contributed to the anger of the country. Which made them more violent and willing to kill.

  11. The French Revolution became violent and radical due to the events that it took place during. The French Revolution has a multitude of causes other than a peaceful governmental change, but some of them included the enlightenment and the poor economic situation of France. The englightenment lead to several new ideaologies, which gave way to radicals who acted in violent ways in order to get their views across. Another cause of the Revolution was the lack of money available during that time. The poor economic situation led to desperation, and during that time, the nobles and rich spent like there was nothing wrong, for example, Marie Antoinette, this would have led to peasant revolt and anger.

    • I agree. Since so many people had very little money due to their previous government they became desperate and violent when they weren’t getting what they wanted in their revolution.

    • I agree with your claim. The enlightenment caused a distraction on what was really happening. The economy was falling apart and the weak rule was not a big help to their cause. The peasants were upset about their rights but the leaders were too selfish on the ideas of Enlightenment.

    • I agree with your statements, Ethan. The French Revolution was far more violent and radical than the American Revolution due to the fact that it took place during the Enlightenment, which brought radical leaders and more bloodshed. The poor economic situation as well, as you stated, was a cause of such violence during the French Revolution compared to the American Revolution. The upper class spent a lot more than they needed to and angered the lower and middle classes.

  12. The French Revolution became more violent than the American Revolution because of France’s leaders. They were all out for themselves and did not care for their economy. The citizens of France also did not agree with what the government was stating. Due to the poor economy, upset citizens, and weak rule, the French Revolution was not successful.

  13. Well Grace, you are definitely right about how the radical leaders of the French Revolution were the cause of the bloodshed and chaos that happened during this time period. It is because of people like Robespierre who led the nation on a killing spree because he had no one to keep him in order. Therefore, I 100% agree with you that because of the unchecked radical leaders of the French Revolution, caused the uprising to become more violent.

  14. The French Revolution was more violent than the American Revolution because of the poor rulers. King Louis was not fit to run the country, and it developed into unorganized chaos. The country was also riddled with poverty and the people were unhappy. The unsatisfactions led to violence, which led to bloodshed.

    • I agree. The that the inability of King Louis to run a country had to do with the start of the French Revolution and the radical methods involved with it. The dissatisfaction of the common people led to more violence and chaos.

    • I agree that the ruler were at fault for the aggressiveness of the people because of tgeur poor ruling and management of the money that feeds the French people.

  15. The French Revolution was more violent and radical than the American Revolution because they had more oppressed people and history of a social rank and system. The Americans did not have that type of rule established, whereas the French had a whole economy and society based on that and wanted change. The French had a different way of handling the higher powers by executing them in public. This can cause more violence and radical methods.

  16. The French Revolution was more radical and violent than the American Revolution because of its lack of organization and its radical leader. The leader, Robespierre, was violent and thirsty for power, which led to him murdering thousands of people.

  17. The French Revolution became more radical and violent than the American Revolution because of an extreme lack of organization and a radical leader. The people were not given what they wanted throughout the Revolution, unlike the American revolution. The citizens of France were angered and aggressive, especially at leaders like Robespierre. The French Revolution resulted in an excessive amount of bloodshed, death, and anger. The French
    citizens wanted their rights and revenge, and they were not getting them, which resulted in extreme violence. This made the French Revolution far more violent than the American Revolution, that was more united and concentrated.

    • I agree with you because you also added the fact that the so called main leader Robespierre was not so good at revolutions and was pretty much only good at killing people an not really getting what the people originally intended the Revolution for.

      • I agree with you Jack that the French Revolution was most definitely more violent than the American Revolution because the people of France allowed for their emotions to block their judgement. Which eventually would lead to the mass killing of numerous 1st estate and some 2nd estate members during the “Reign of Terror”. Therefore, if the leaders and the French people were more civil about their disagreement, like the Americans, maybe the French Revolution could have ended less radical.

    • I agree with the fact that the people got tired of being stepped on and are finally revolting for a better life, for more rights to benefit them.

    • I agree that the French citizens were not given what they wanted which was no monarchy since the monarchy came back in the end.

  18. The French Revolution was more violent and bloody mostly because it was not as well coordinated as the American Revolution. The French Revolution was not as orginanized or centered around a strong leader, but instead was mostly chaos and the poor people getting their revenge on the king. This lead to the Revolution being more focused on cold blooded revenge for the King rather then the people’s independence. Unlike the American Revolution that was solely focused on declaring its independence from Great Britain.

    • I agree with your statement, Matthew. The French Revolution was very unorganized and chaotic, which resulted in far more bloodshed and anger. The French people were angry that they were not receiving the rights they wanted and you are correct in stating that the Revolution in France was more focused on cold blooded revenge, which contrasts to the American Revolution.

  19. The French Revolution became much more radicalized and violent because the citizens of France were in a more dire situation than those of England during their revolution. Their economic situation was much worse, as people were starving in the street. This was due to the immensely unfair taxes levied on the proletariats. This economic downfall was the result of the funding of the American Revolution. Also, the lack of organization played a major role, as traditional political tactics would be ineffective against a more powerful monarchy.

    • I agree that it was due to the French citizens in worse condition that the Americans. They were starving and had no money.

  20. The french revolution became bloodier because of the famine. I believe it’s because the French were a more established kingdom with a longer history of oppression and the peasants and the Kings were packed closer

    • I agree with you because France was a well developed monarchy, even before the revolution. Such power to the king was the trigger for the revolt which in turn shows how much of an authority France had established.

  21. The French Revolution became more violent than the American revolution due to the government changing so many times. They went girl a monarchy to a directory and back to a monarchy which put a strain in the people who got even angrier because they got rid of the monarchy but then it came back again.

  22. The French Revolution became more aggressive than the American Revolution due to the poor work of their king, their poor judgement and management of money. This causing a stir with the people and wanting to be treated better, to have more rights nd not be stepped on by the ones with more power.

    • I agree with you that money and poor judgement were two big factors in the French Revolution being more violent. The French citizens didn’t get what they wanted out of the Revolution.

  23. The French Revolution was ultimately more violent than the American Revolution because of the introduction of the guillotine a as well as the number of oppressed people was much higher.As well as the famine that was a factor in the start of the revolution but made people more susceptible to disease and weak which made the peasants angry. Another major factor to the French Revolution was the unfair taxes on the peasants and little to no rights for them.

  24. This happens due to the ultimate violence that europe has established towards higher powers. The beheading of people is a common practice in such areas. It also became more violent due to the further development of France military in comparison to the 13 colonies and Britain.

  25. The French Revolution was much more violent because people were a lot more vigor due to the everything with taxes and mess ups. Also the outbreaks of diseases made people very suspicious.

  26. The French Revolution was more radical and violent because they were very disorganized as a government and didn’t have a radical leader. Their leader, Robespierre, was extremely violent and not good at giving the people what they wanted especially in the Revolution. Due to this, it lead to lots of killings unlike the American Revolution. This angered many French citizens who wanted their rights.

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