AP Government Post #3

Read Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution.  Does Congress have too much power?  Is the “necessary and proper” clause outdated?  Are there enough checks and balances today?  Are there any powers of Congress that you would limit?  If yes, which ones?

Article 1 Section 8

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74 thoughts on “AP Government Post #3

  1. Read Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution. Does Congress have too much power? Is the “necessary and proper” clause outdated? Are there enough checks and balances today? Are there any powers of Congress that you would limit? If yes, which ones?

    I think that in some cases, yes, Congress does have too much power. While the necessary and proper clause is an important part of our government, I think that there should be some sort of regulation to it as it is extremely vague. I think that we do have enough checks and balances today and that the three branches are fairly well regulated. The only power that I would limit in Congress is the necessary and proper clause simply because I feel that it is much too vague and could be used for corruption.

    • I agree, I think that it depends on the case whether Congress has too much power or not. I like how you talked about how the Necessary and Proper Clause is vague. That is a great way to define it. I also agree with how a power that could be limited at times would be the Necessary and Proper Clause, because again of how vague it can be at times.

      • I don’t think Congress holds too much power except for maybe the necessary and proper clause. The clause is a bit outdated because there are different scenarios that happen today than when the clause was created. I believe that we do have enough checks and balances today. The only thing I would change is the way the necessary and proper clause can be used.

    • I agree that the necessary and proper clause is too vague. Because of this vagueness the government can practically use it for whatever they want.

      • The Proper clause within the article is very slim compared to others, it could be used much more than it previously was. Congress holds a lot of power and sometimes makes things difficult, it would be much easier if Congress would step back a little instead of trying to rule everything they possibly can.

    • I completely agree as there are examples in history of congress attempting to expand their powers outside of the ones given to them in the constitution, yet it would be difficult to further define what is necessary and proper for congress.

    • I agree I think the checks and balances for the branches are working. I do think the necessary and proper clause does need more regulation as well, it does seem vague.

    • This Necessary and Proper Clause grants Congress a set of implied powers. Yes, it is a bit vague but it would be extremely difficult to define congress’s powers to a specific list. The elastic clause allows a practical way to adjust for unforeseen circumstances.

    • I agree, you have a well formed argument and I like the flow and points you talked about. I think occasionally they do have too much power but it keeps structure in our country.

    • I totally agree in your worries about corruption . While it’s impossible for every situation to be outlined with a plan of action by Congress , making the constitution more relevant for the contemporaries would be useful.

    • I agree, the clause is vague which could in some cases increase the power congress has over a situation. I still believe congress does not have to much power.

  2. I feel as though Congress could possibly be seen as having too much power due to the last part of Article 1, Section 8 which talks about the Necessary and Proper Clause. However, other than that, I do not believe that they have too much power, or at least power that cannot be checked by other systems of the government, as seen through checks and balances. I believe that checks and balances are still relevant and work in todays world. I am not too sure if there are any powers I would limit in the article. I may consider limiting the Necessary and Proper Clause, but at times it is required in order to interpret events in modern times, or continue to enact beneficial legislature.

    • I agree that the necessary and proper clause should be updated to where it is relevant to today’s problems.

    • I agree as they need to have some limits, which are given by the necessary and proper clause, yet it may be abused in cases which may only be marginally related to the clauses they are trying to pass their laws under.

    • Feel that Congress doesn’t have enough power cause they never seem to get anything done with the powers that they do have. I do see though why a person might say that the necessary and proper clause is very general and can be interpreted to do do many things. But until they abuse this power their is no need to take it away because it can be use in case of a crisis or something. That is why I disagree with you on weather we should keep the necessary and proper clause.

    • I agree that the necessary and proper clause is useful for interpreting modern events, but I feel like our system of balances and checks had caused problems in the past with corruption. As long as everything is regulated I feel like we have a good system

    • Definitely agree with what you said about limiting the necessary and proper clause because at some times it can definitely be abused.

    • I also believe that the necessary and proper clause are an important part of congress’s power because it allows them to adjust legislation that reflects modern times.

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    February 20, 2020 at 8:03 am
    I don’t think Congress holds too much power except for maybe the necessary and proper clause. The clause is a bit outdated because there are different scenarios that happen today than when the clause was created. I believe that we do have enough checks and balances today. The only thing I would change is the way the necessary and proper clause can be used.

  4. If they actually follow the constitutions rules then no Congress does not have too much power. The necessary and proper clause does appear to be somewhat outdated as it seems easy to extort. At times there is too much checks and balances because now they cannot get anything done. I would not limit any powers I just wish they could compromise better.

  5. While Congress has an extreme amount of power, the president is able to veto any decision made by Congress, and the Supreme Court may step in and defend either side to make the final decision, therefore, yes, I think there are enough checks and balances. Also, in reference to the necessary and proper clause, I think since any branch of government is able to enforce those laws, it is acceptable, versus if only the legislative branch could.

  6. Actually , I think the Congress has a decent amount of power . I like that they are required / encouraged to promote the arts and create institutions like the post office . These are important pieces to a strong and successful society , and congress having the power to empower the arts is good for the country . If congress did not have the powers they had , who would be in charge of such proceedings!

  7. Congress is not given too much power through their enumerated powers, yet they do try to abuse the necessary and proper clause such as when they attempted to use the commerce clause to pass laws about gun control. I believe there are enough checks and balances, yet sometimes they aren’t used when they should be, for example if congress passes an unconstitutional law, and the president does not veto it it may not be declared unconstitutional until it is brought all the way up to the Supreme Court through a civil suit, which may not happen for an extended period of time. I personally wouldn’t limit any powers, yet would more fully define them, such as with the necessary and proper clause, which needs to more acurrately spell out what they must leave up to the states.

    • I totally agree especially when it comes to the congress and gun control. They are trying to take away a constitutional right. With some vague clauses.

    • One of my favorite posts but I especially liked how you implemented todays issues into the post like gun control.

  8. The necessary and properly is something that is important because it allows for congress to react to any crazy or unusual events that happen. This allows them to help to protect and keep the public safe. It is a lot of power but we do vote them in so that means that we trust them with this power. Lastly it is not like they are doing anything with this power and their are still many checks and balances to keep them in line. This is why I do think that the necessary and proper clause is good and that we should keep it.

    • I agree and I like how you mention that it doesn’t seem as though they are doing much with this power, because they really do take their time to get things done it seems. I also like how you acknowledge that it is a lot of power, yet we are the ones that vote them in, so obviously there is trust there and they don’t have too much power.

    • I agree that the necessary and proper clause helps congress deal with any random or crazy problems. However, congress has also used that power in the past for their own benefit.

    • While congress has a lot of power, I don’t think that the powers they have could really be handled by many other groups. I think that the only part of the necessary and proper that is truly outdated is the wording because it is a bit too vague. However, I do think that there are enough checks and balances today and I don’t think any powers really need to be limited.

      • I agree, the necessary and proper clause could use more of a modern rendition. Although, I do disagree with how frequently you say checks and balances are done.

      • I do not necessarily know if there are enough checks and balances but I feel that the different government systems since they have the equal power to revoke or accept an action or a bill, needs to be continuously monitored.

  9. In some instances, Congress does have too much power. But I think that it is a good power because if we have the power to the people, there would still be people who disagree so who better to make decisions than Congress? The necessary and proper clause could use some work, it is far too vague and should have more details added to it. I think there are enough checks and balances today. I wouldn’t limit any powers of Congress, just define them a little more, which the necessary and proper clause could help if it also had more details to it.

    • I agree the necessary and proper cause is extremely vague which allows for way to many swayed interpretations of this clause just for congress to get their way.

    • I completely agree with your idea that the necessary and proper clause is too vague, which could lead to some sort of abuse. I also agree with what you said about checks and balances in today’s government.

    • I definitely agree that the necessary and proper clause is too vague and that there are probably enough checks and balances today.

  10. I believe congress has way too much power. This power stems from mainly the vague clauses they use therefore they are able to interpret it anyway they need. Especially with the necessary and proper clause that allows congress to do basically anything they want along with the commerce clause. If their is one thing to change I think it should be the way wars are decided. We can’t keep using people who have never been to war to decide when it is right to have a war in my opinion.

  11. I wouldn’t say that Congress has too much power. that being said, i would say the necessary and proper clause is definitely a bit outdated. Along with being outdated, it is quite vague. Due to the vagueness, the interpretations are endless and can lead to a slight abuse of it. When it comes to checks and balances today, I feel like there is enough checks and balances in our government. As for limitations on Congress, I don’t see any that are needed, except updating the necessary and proper clause.

  12. I believe that congress does not have an abundance of power. This can lead into the Necessary and Proper Clause which in my opinion should be updated to today’s society. I also feel like there should be more detailed explanation in this clause. Since there is a lack of detail this can can abuse on the clause. For Checks and Balances there is an abundance of them in our government. To finalize, in my opinion there shouldn’t be any limitations added or created besides the more detailed and new version of the Necessary and Proper Clause.

    • I agree about the necessary and proper clause being more modernized. Times have changed and it’s important for the clause to be more up to date.

  13. I think Congress has too much power. To an extent checks and balances, help regulate each branch, but still illegal things occur. Too many voices can be a problem, but too little is one as well. I don’t know how I’d edit the system, or congress. Corruption will always occur where their is power

    • I agree, wherever there is a position of power there will always be someone who will try and take advantage of it. On the other hand, we have checks and balances to do exactly as the name implies.

    • I don’t know I think the checks and balances system along with the power divided among several hundreds of individuals provides a pretty fair system even though there have been a couple occasions in which Congress wasn’t perfect.

    • Your point on congress having too many or too little voices is incredibly relevant . With the the growth of the nation , it’s hard to find a balance for the power of the people and the power of the government , as there is so much of both in this country.

  14. I feel as though the necessary and proper clause could be a bit too flexible at times allowing for too much congressional power and I think this should be updated yet I have not come up with a way to “fix” it. I do think the checks and balances system provides a good foundation to regulate this power but I think the clause does more good than bad in most cases.

    • I agree with your idea that the necessary and proper clause can be a little too flexible due to the lack of details in it. I also agree that they should modernize it due to the fact that times have changed since then.

  15. After reading that section, No.. Congress does not have too much power. They have just the right amount of power to protect the country and still make sure everyone has their rights and are being taken care of. No the “necessary and proper” clause is not outdated, matter of fact it has aged well and is definitely more useful now than it was years ago. Today the checks and balances system might be becoming a little bit too much when it comes to how many times checks happen. There aren’t any powers I would limit but there are definitely some I would tweak and adjust.

  16. I personally do not think Congress has too much power. It’s their responsibility to make sure the country is running properly. There must be a power in the government that has the authority to take responsibility for certain tasks. However, i do think then neccessary and proper clause is a bit outdated. We interpret things differently than back then. I would modernize the necessary and proper clause.

  17. Congress has as much power as they need given any situation. Congress has powers that are granted explicitly and has the power to create more rules or laws to extend their power. But new powers cannot be enacted without the concent of the governed and the concent of the other 2 branches of government. Checks and balances keep Congress from getting to powerful and running rampant.

    • I agree with you Chris, I do believe that Congress has too much power in regards to the situation. And I also understand that checks and balances keep Congress from gaining too much power and running wild.

  18. Congress has just the right amount of power to get the job done, if need be. Congress may have all these powers at their disposal, but how often are we actually seeing them being exercised? As for the necessary and proper clause, I think that it should still be upheld till this day and age. Checks and Balances should be done more frequently than they are now, but the government has more important issues to worry about. As a whole, I think Congress is in a place of not being too powerful, but still a force to be utilized if change is much needed

  19. I don’t feel as though congress has too much power, of course some of their powers could be seen as being too much but in the end I’d rather have over 500 people debating and coming up with these important decisions rather than only one, a.k.a the president.

  20. The Necessary and Proper cause is vague and gives congress a lot of power but I believe it should be maintained because the government has a system of checks and balances that can stop congress from abusing their power too much.

  21. I believe that congress does not have too much power. I believe that during the times of certain court cases, the clauses were not specific enough or are not justified under the government, leading to state-level issues.

  22. I feel that the Congress has just enough power. There are enough checks and balances so I don’t think there’s anyway to try and make it “better”. The necessary and proper clause is not outdated and I feel is just vague enough in a good way for Congress.

    • Yes and I believe it’s because of the vagueness the government has the right amount of power especially with the checks and balances system in place.

  23. Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power to “lay and collect taxes, duties, imports, and excises.” The Constitution allows Congress to tax in order to “provide for the common defense and general welfare.” The Court has flip-flopped on the issue of whether Congress has the constitutional power to tax in order to accomplish regulatory goals that would otherwise be outside of the scope of its enumerated powers.

  24. In article 1, section 8 of the US Constitution, congress was set limited powers that they only they may pursue. Although we have checks and balances within our national government, it seems to be that congress has slightly too much power and corruption. With ideals of the necessary and proper clause we can tend to see congress make laws that are very much beneficial to them and them only. These laws are then also checked with the other two branches but rarely do we see things to pan out.

  25. From the article, I think that congress does not have too much power. The clause is very general. I believe we have enough checks and balances.

    • (didn’t finish) There aren’t any powers I would limit, but some can probably be changed to be set as more modern. I think the Nessescay and proper clause is outdated because it is very general and can go many different ways, it could give the congress the freedom to do many things.

    • I can see what you are saying in regards to the clause being so general. I feel like there should be a more detailed explanation of what is going on in the clause.

  26. I could easily understand why many people would believe that congress has to much power; due to the necessary and proper clause. The clause is a bit vague which would give the congress a bit to much power. If you look at the government as a whole each part of the government has a large sum of control of the United States. Therefore only looking at one piece, in this case congress it can easily seem like the congress has an overwhelming amount of power, but in comparison to the rest of the government it seems equal.

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